Why log out? I don’t like staying logged in to something 24/7.
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I mean, having to have my iLok plugged in all the time is kinda like being logged in to 30 or so different companies, so I don’t mind that so much. We stay logged in to web browsers and social media apps all the time. Being logged in is the least of my worries.
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YOu may stay logged in to web browsers and social media apps but I don’t and certainly NOT on my music computer. Unless you’re using iLok Cloud you’re not online with anything.
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For someone who is “done with BFD”, you sure hangin’ around BFD a lot. 
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Just because I’m done with the program doesn’t mean I can’t speak my piece as to why I’m done with it. Unless something is said no one will think there’s no problems and carry on fat dumb and happy and think all is well.
But whatever.
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Hopefully - we’re all here to make music. Not enemies. Peace and good will to all.
Music has, or at least should have no boundaries.
Life isn’t perfect. Music is on every level.
No licence system is perfect - no product is perfect.
Superior Drummer is fantastic if we all want that room sound out of the box.
BFD 3 has individual drum qualities (in my opinion) that no other drum software has.
For me, Steinberg have got the licence issue right (tied to the machine and extendable).
InMusic is not perfect but at least we still have BFD. Licence not ideal But It’s working (for me).
I’ve had very little trouble with it (hopefully that won’t change).
Many companies have gone under this last two to three years. And it’s a wonder any of us are left to be able to make any kind of music (Even the style thing is under threat from these political nuts).
Just having my rant.
It’s sad to see lots of folk having trouble. And I have no answer to that. I’m not the sharpest knife in the draw.
Neil.
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This needs changing. ASAP.
The above needs changing to ‘internet connection required’, otherwise it is currently a blatant lie and likely contravening trading standards in a lot of territories, certainly the UK. At least be upfront and honest about this.
By offline mode I mean being able to use the software if BFD goes down, not be on a self destruct for 90 days and then kaput. I mean having the option to use the damn app regardless of internet connection.
By offline mode, I mean being able to update without having to go online. Download the update, then install on a different PC, meaning the studio PC is always isolated.
These days, considering all the options, no one needs to be beholden to one app, let alone have to be on a three month leash that we’ve had to drag info out of the company about. I’ve been giving them the benefit of the doubt for a year maybe?
Every change regarding this that is for the benefit of the customer has been the result of consistent pestering and post after post of complaints. We still havent been given any clear reason why this is happening, what data is collected or anything further than the ‘im the owner and its out of my hands’?
Offline mode, lip service, best case scenarios, more ‘im the owner, its out of my hands’.
Just remember, if the economy bites, and you have to shut off your internet…you’ve got only three months of this expensive app left. Thats me done. There are far too many other options. I was happy to wait and be on board for what updates may be coming, but this mess is still ongoing a year later and actual useful updates are thin on the ground. I’d rather go to an online site and buy a sample of some drums, grab some loops and pay for the rights than do this nonsense any more. Creative approaches to drums instead of dealing with data gathering, loss of connections, login/logout issues, servers being down, random de-authentication loops, the LM just being less than useless in the data it provides, a lie on the front page that was clearly never going to change and has just been left there.
I pity any new purchasers at this point, I really do.
All of this. Sunk cost fallacy. I’m 90 days from abandoning ship, this is no longer worth the time or effort to contribute to tbh. After spending the last five years acquiring gear for an offline studio, not tied to the PC, this was the last thing I’ve been trying to figure out and its BFD themselves in the way of that. So, nah. Not worth it now.
For 90 days. You’d have a mere three months, and if it isnt cracked, you’re f*cked.
@BFD_Drew Sorry man, you may be happier at your new owners, but its not working out for this customer.
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Being forced to go online every three months or the app shuts down is not an offline mode. What happens if you dont have the internet for a few months, what then?
We’ve been through this already, for the last year. The fact I have to go into my financial situation just to get anyone to understand this point is finally beyond me.
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Bye then, all the best.
Obviously not.
Bye then, again, all the best, again.
Seriously, that bit about the System Requirements, I mean come on, really? How old are you 10, 11?
If you are as unhappy and miserable as you try to make out you are, then why? why hang around here? there are many other options remember, so why? are you just trying to make the rest of us as unhappy and miserable as yourself? I mean why?
Go and grab one of those many other options and rock on, be happy, don’t stay here and be unhappy and miserable, rock on dude 
I don’t think I’ve been paying lip service; I think I’ve been pretty transparent, or at least as transparent as I can be, and I am still flying the flag for long-term offline support.
As it currently stands, you have to go online every 90 days to validate authorizations. I’d like to see this changed. I’ll post more when I know more.
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What are you talking about? I’ve been here contributing happy as a lorry load of larry’s for a year, asking people to wait for all this to shake out. I’ve made maybe two or three post complaining about the current situation, as it is, right now. I’ll hang out wherever I please, and for an app I paid hundreds of pounds for, I’ll hang out as long as I like. Im not unhappy and miserable and didnt make out I am. I’m talking about the situation. For an app I wont be able to use without major hassle in a few months time.
As a purchaser of said product, I can make comments, thanks. There is no need to get personal at all. Wind it in.
The system requirements bit is legal. We have to go online to use the app, its not just a download and use the app without any internet connection. I dont have any idea why you’re getting personal but its quite unnecessary. I could be 6 months old and that wouldnt change. I could be 101 and the wording on the front page would still be wrong.
If my post made you unhappy, thats on you, but dont speak for everyone. No one is here trying to make you miserable.
@BFD_Drew Yes, I understand how I wont be able to use BFD in a few months time. Thanks for re-iterating it without any hope of a solution.
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I’m one of the few contributors here who have had barely any issues since the migration, and now I wont be able to use BFD, completely and utterly by its own design.
And for some reason, I’m expected to not be livid about it and to just slink away quietly 
Uh-huh.
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Please offer a pro active solution that the company is going to employ for customers. Or at the very least, this customer.
It’s not ideal but I appreciate how BFD tells me how many days are left until a license check. And calling home once every 90 days is much better than many other plugins and DAWs that call home every launch (or many times during a session), so that’s all good in my book.
iLok is not a good option for anyone going forward since hardware dongles are going extinct and the software iLok has historically been one of the least dependable DRMs we’ve experienced.
For me personally the debate over the new licensing system in BFD is over, it’s not ideal but it’s not that bad, and it could very easily be so much worse. All I want now is continued support for the software in terms of stability and compatibility, and a nice upgrade to BFD4 down the road.
Unless you wont be able to use it, and then it becomes bad.
Its not about how often it calls home, its not about it being better or worse than other options. Its purely about not having internet access meaning not being to use the software, a situation I’m facing for which the company is offering absolutely no solutions.
Yeah that’s been a problem with me for a lot of software over these past two years. I was planning on cutting my walls open and running ethernet to the studio but I found a solution in those LAN over powerline adapters that goes from my office to a shared breaker in my studio, and I now get internet from there.
If I didn’t have that option I’d be pretty upset, but the options for the BFD team might come down to going with what inMusic demands or probably have no BFD team at all?
I feel for them in that respect, but having empathy for them and seeing that its unreasonable to expect a customer to have to abandon hundreds of pounds worth of software and just shrug it off at 90 days notice arent mutually exclusive. All of this has only ever come to light after its caused problems, it hasnt been an upfront discussion with customers, we’ve been last to know at every step and I’ll be ‘disconnected’ after a year plus of highlighting exactly this issue.
At a certain point, it becomes not the customers problem and a response of just ‘email support’ really isnt good enough. This has had over a year to get worked out. And now I’m here on three month notice and the only response from BFD is hurt feelings. I’m sorry to everyone for kicking up a stink, but I’m not being left with any other option here but email support. Uh huh.
New customers should be made fully aware that this is a three month rental of software, that needs the internet to constantly refresh its authorisations (How often? We dont know. What data is it collecting? No idea). Its as simple as that. If I’d known this at the start, I would not have migrated because as I said a year or more ago, I regularly go thru times of prolonged no internet.
I have no desire to go further into my personal circumstances on a public forum just in the hope that some form of empathy might kick for me not having access to the internet Thats a loss from the start
But the software should work regardless, thats all.
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I can only add that the best software I ever had , was FXexpansion’s DK-008 sample player - with a pre-release version of the original Drumkit from Hell.
8 mouse clicks , and you had a 64-part drum kit - with about 10 kits already mapped fully in the library in LM4 format - which was around 600Mb , including the ambient companion samples. Folk and Jazz , all the way through to Metal. Was awesome.
Best day on BitComet I ever had! Well , until I discovered GGG videos!
I’ve said this a number of times to disgruntled customers on here, and its true under most circumstances. This isnt aimed at you directly btw, but it just occurred to me…
If you facing being offline for over 3 months, it really doesnt matter if BFD exist or not, the end result is the same, total lock out from using the software.
You know, that software that doesnt need the internet to run.
BFD’s official line, from the owner, is its out of their hands, nothing is ever going to change about it, dont blame us you’re hurting our feelings, we work long hours, that this wont be discussed ever again and to be patient.
If its not going to change, and the main page lies about needing the internet to function, why on earth would I remain patient? This has been ongoing for over a year.
BFD needs to do something to make this right, anything, absolutely anything, instead of moaning about their long working hours. There is zero empathy from this company regarding this issue.
BUYER BEWARE.
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I concur with everything maximumdembo has said.
And there should be less of the “don’t let your arse hit the door on the way out” attitude from some. We’ve spent a lot on BFD and have every right to complain and also to explain why we’re leaving.
This may also be useful to potential new customers who won’t know about the 90-day citizen check because it isnt stated on the website as a requirement.
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