I just meant, it’s a lot of money to drop on software that you haven’t really sussed out completely and that’s at a crossroads. I hope your risk pays off in the end though.
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That’s what I think too and it’s one very good reason for me to stick with BFD3.
That and the fact that, for me at least, it’s still superior to it’s competitors and if I thought there would be no BFD4 for another 4 or 5 years I’d still be happy to wait until toontrack or XLN Audio or someone brought out something better than BFD3.
I do know though, that BFD4 is in the pipeline. I think I’m allowed to say that much under my NDA. 
Steve
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The name of this sticky thread is “What do you want in BFD4” and it was created by the BFD Drums team so I’m pretty sure the fact that BFD4 is in some stage of development is pretty safe to say and public information.
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Good point. 
Steve
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I’d suggest that InMusic/BFD have a huge amount work on their hands if they expect current users to part with more money on BFD4 considering the all problems that have happened since the transition from FXP.
If Sweetwater have taken the decision to stop selling BFD because of:…
then it’s not just a handful of core users that are complaining on this forum - the issues must be much more widespread.
BFD have had nearly 2 years since having been taken over by InMusic - does anybody truthfully think that time has been particularly positive or constructive ?
Worth revisiting this thread:
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BFD as a brand is alive. Without InMusic, it wouldn’t exist at all. So yeah, while InMusic has made a mess of the auth system (my own opinion), BFD as a product is live, it’s being updated, and there’s stuff in the works. None of that would’ve happened otherwise.
So I do think some of what’s happened in the last two years has been both positive and constructive when compared to the alternative, which would have been BFD having been completely abandoned. It’s clear from Skot and Drew’s post in that’s thread that’s what the BFD brand was up against following the Roli debacle.
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@Fender_Bender I agree. When one shells out money for a product they should expect it to operate correctly.
When I bought BFD3 and the Expansion packs it seemed that most of the immediate issues people were having had been fixed with updates to BFD3 and the License Manager. So I felt confident that the BFD/inMusic development team were working hard to fixing any lingering issues.
My subsequent issues are about one Expansion missing a snare drum that was supposed to be included, and 2 Expansion packs not loading BFD2 Presets and Kits correctly because they rely on snare, hihat and cymbals that apparently are part of the BFD2 Core Library, which I do not have, since I am new to BFD with BFD3 and didn’t upgrade from BFD2.
I have another irritating issue that has suddenly popped up. Some items/paths in BFD3’s browser are showing as not authorized, and will not load into BFD3. They are indeed authorized, and show as such in the License Manager. What’s more troubling is that this problem is random, with different items/paths showing as not authorized each time I rescan. I haven’t had the time to fully document this to create a technical support request, but should be able once the holidays are over.
Bottom line is I agree with @Steve63 that BFD3 is the best piece of drum software available, and my expectation is that BFD4 should have all of the issues ironed out. Maybe the folks at BFD/inMusic will do what other software developers have done, and that’s to offer current owners of buggy software (BFD3, in this case) a free or minimal-cost upgrade to the new, bug-fix version.
I never said that it was Sweetwater. Please don’t miss-quote me, and read my subsequent post above to clarify.
This is starting to piss me off. People who make irresponsible comments like this could start an unnecessary war, pissing match, or even lawsuits between Sweetwater and inMusic.
I should never had made my initial comments above, and @Fender_Bender should not have insinuated that I was talking about Sweetwater. I will be more careful about what I post in public forums.
I think you’re making it out to be something more than it is. First of all, I believe Sweetwater stopped carrying BFD products when they were still acquired by FXpansion?/Roli, way before inMusic afaik?
And Sweetwater or any other retailer have the right to choose which companies and products they sell, so I highly doubt it’s going to start anything.
It should send a message to InMusic though, that they need to do some work, if they want to sell BFD products through them again. I think that’s a good thing.
@Fender_Bender Peace brother. I can agree with you that Sweetwater, or any other retailer, has the right to choose what products they sell. Also, that inMusic should be concerned if their products are being dropped by some retailers.
In their defense, I do believe that BFD/inMusic is trying to fix the problems that exist in the current BFD product, and those that arose from the change in ownership. According to what I’ve read here, BFD had been neglected in recent years, and inMusic is trying to resurrect the product. Here’s hoping they succeed.
MY BAD: I should never have said a word about an unnamed retailer dropping BFD products. It was a big mistake on my part. I don’t know what I was thinking. Hopefully, this is the last that any of this is mentioned again.
This is coming in 3.4.4.
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I don’t mind people discussing the auth system, retailers, their problems and frustrations. I really don’t. But ideally it wouldn’t be in this thread - this is for BFD4.
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Then make a proper FAQ on this forum, that isn’t about proper etiquette and conduct, and is about problem solving. I would love to not have to talk to any of you, and be able to fix chronic issues with the program, but such isn’t the reality.
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@Defreshed has a point.
If there was a thread specifically for these issues, it would help to keep other threads clean of this talk by virtue of having a thread to point people in the direction of. I really think a sticky thread with LM/Auth details would help, just showing details of how things currently work.
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The authorising system is a valid discussion for BFD4. The other stuff can go in their own threads for sure, but not wanting the current cack-handed auth system in BFD4 is definitely a valid discussion for this thread.
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Or something like in Logic Drummer where you can ask BFD to follow and audio file.
It would also be nice to be able to select a specific type of music (ie metal, rock, jazz, funk…) so BFP would create a midi map that follows the track/song and that complies with the archetypes of this music (sorry for my bad english)
Ya, a flag displayed in “Help> About BFD” might be something to live with. I’d suggest it gets reset -automatically- to a max value -in the background- every time you are connected online AND launch BFD.
I use a program that does this AND the reset is 6 months. Still not my preference, but if you must do something, there are preferred alternatives out there.
I’m certainly not suggesting the auth system is an invalid discussion but this thread was created solely for suggestions on NEW features for BFD4 and it seems to have become full of complaints about the auth system. The current auth system is, ‘current’ and so not solely pertaining to BFD4 and as such doesn’t belong in this thread.
Perhaps suggestions of how to better implement the auth system would be more helpful but I’m definitely in agreement with Drew on this.
Perhaps the thread might have been better if it had just been called, ‘BFD4 Feature Requests’ rather than, ‘What do you want in BFD4’
Steve
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People will still say… The feature request that I most want for BFD4, is an LM that isn’t broken.
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I know, sad but true and indeed I think I may have even been there already. 
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