What do you want in BFD4?

SF_Green, thanks for giving me the idea of using macOS “Accessibility Zoom” to toggle-zoom the BFD3 window, so that I can see its contents. (Of course, it’s ridiculous that this may need to be done to use a professional software product.)

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kafka, yes I noticed this, and content not scaled.

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BFD3 was first released in 2013; back then, we didn’t have the tech for proper resizing and rescaling. In the future though…

So, as a very new user of BFD3, here is what I want in BFD4:

  1. A proper, modern GUI that works at any reasonable display resolution, today and tomorrow. Ideally, the entire GUI (i.e., virtually all of its content) would be created using vector graphics, so that the user could resize the window to any desired size. Cherry Audio’s Memorymode synth is like this. But failing that, a GUI like Arturia’s V Collection, where there are lots of GUI sizes that can be selected by the user.

  2. A product that does not crash. BFD3 has, in short order, already crashed and taken Studio One Professional down with it… several times. I guess all I can hope for is that BFD3 crashes occur in batches, not as regularly as clockwork. I should be able to open a support ticket with a crash log file, after I have taken a look at it.

  3. The DAW transport start - stop and its interaction with BFD3’s Grooves / Drum Track is not really user friendly / optimal / simple. I’d like to see this improved.

That’s all that I’ve had the opportunity to notice and comment upon thus far. (1) and (2) are absolutely crucial. That really should go without saying.

I’d also like to experience customer support that responds - all things being equal - in a responsive fashion. I have no previous knowledge of this company and there has been no response, except auto-responder, thus far to the two emails that I sent.

I quite like how BFD3 sounds… I hope this purchase can turn out well.

While I’m on the subject of feedback, is there a company timeline / roadmap for when customers can expect to see the release of BFD4 ?

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I like the UI, it is very clean, a bit like Ableton. The Groove handling need some time but is easy to use.

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VST3 plugin so I can just keep working as VST2 is dropped by Steinberg.

A simpler licensing system which ideally works the same as the new Steinberg licensing changes, ie so can use on 3 machines without refreshing each individually. Ive paid for the product and do not want to be interrogated regards my licence. The system must remember it, because Im getting too old to track dozens of licensing systems with their own idiosyncratic methods. take the pressure off the customers who have paid.

Cheers and good luck.
David

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Fix reliability and quality issues (authorisation, Mac M1…)

the interface :

  • allow for easy access to the raw samples (easy all-effects-off switch, plug-in-wide groove off switch…)

  • easier access to instrument levels (sometimes it’s hard to find exactly all the mics used for a given instrument to balance them) make a panel with all parameters for a given instrument accessible via an icon

  • visual indications of the instruments used in a given slot

In summary : de-clutter the interface, please start by making an easy to use and easy to parameter raw drum-kit machine (because it’s why people buy BFD in the first place)

Then, streamline the effect section
Then the grooves
Then the rest

Audio to Midi converter similar to what Toontrack has in EZBass, so we can import isolated drum tracks.

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There is an all-effects off button in the mixer already, as well as Groove-off button, unless I misunderstood?

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I probably wasn’t clear : I meant clear identifiable tabs with switch on top like
:black_square_button: GROOVE :arrow_right: KIT :arrow_right: :black_square_button: PRE :arrow_right: :black_square_button: MIXER :arrow_right: :black_square_button: POST

I guess it’s possible… but it’s so all over the place that I always spend forever to find anything (like shutting off grooves).

Again, the raw aspect of BFD has always been its selling point, so it should be very straightforward to strip down the VST to the original samples (while letting the features easily accessible for users with different needs)

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I know this is a long shot and probably not a good idea, but how about a mobile app version that can be used to control BFD from a distance away from the pc or mac that it is installed on… :upside_down_face:

not entirely sure why I would want to do that lol.

Merry Christmas BFD’rs

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I struggle loads with it, things never seem consistent, kit pieces always end up on the wrong part (snare on cymbal parts, cymbals on toms) even when I use the import from pre-set feature. Quite painful having to re-arrange everything.

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This alone, if it worked well, would be almost worth the price of the full program in my opinion

I agree, I really need the mapping to be spot on, I do a lot of drum progging and having to mess around with the maps makes me not want to use BFD at all sometimes.

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Apologies if I am missing something, but it would be lovely to be able to un solo everything or unmute everything at once by clicking the solo or mute bottom on the master track.

For instance, if I have solo’d 3 or 4 tracks or more, I have to unselect them one at a time, I cant seem to just cancel everything that is solo’d from the master channel? Cubase does this with one click.

Is it possible? If not that would be a great feature. Just found this in the manual which I tried before I posted this and it does not work:

This indicator can be ALT-clicked to un-solo all channels currently in a hard solo state.

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Unless I’ve missed it somewhere, there should be a way to get rid of the “Confirm” dialog when loading a new kit. There should be a check-box in Preferences to turn it on or off. It’s particularly annoying when trying to quickly cycle through kits to find what you’re looking for, for a track.

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User customizable channel output routing presets, for quickly switching between all on one stereo output to mixed mono/stereo. Steven Slate Drums has this and it’s very handy. This should be in addition to mixer presets. I think it’s a good idea to have them separate from each other.

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Yeah, this and the mixer presets would be a big deal for me. I don’t usually compose with a full multi-out setup, but I do mix with one - often with VE Pro. The workflow would be much simpler if I could toggle between the two.

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Yeah, I generally compose with one stereo out, and then print to DAW to mix. However, I still use the FX in BFD to get a general idea of how the kit might sound processed. The trouble I have is, when I print, I usually have to jack up the channel faders in BFD to get a louder signal going into my DAW. So I have to save a different preset for that. If I have to make any changes to the Kit Tech or Modeling, I have to remember to save the kit settings and load them in the two presets to stay consistent.

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@Fender_Bender have you maxed out the “plugin gain” knob in the upper right?

I generally try to gain stage things so they make sense, but there are a few kit pieces that could use a little more and found this helps as a more general adjustment.

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