One thing I’ve noticed is its usually the crash types or ride.
I usually use Z cymbals and sometimes the Paiste power ride 2000.
I cant say this helps 100% but I think there might be a correlation between any damping being used as well as the midi volume setting.
So if I’m having an issue i make sure there is no damping and get the volume up on the cymbal. ( I export the whole kit performance stereo as opposed to individual stems) If I do hear a cut I cant ever recall having it happen twice in a row, so it seems very random in terms of what triggers it.
Did anyone find a resolution to this issue? I’m having the same problem.
I’m using BFD 3.31 and Pro Tools 2020. When I play drums via the plugin, everything sounds great. However, when exported the individual stems, the cymbals and the ride cut off too soon after hits (it basically sounds like a choke instead of ringing out).
When this happens in a full mix, it isn’t noticeable. However, when there is a sparse passage with just some accent rides, it is unusable.
I also tried the suggestion of turning the damping to 0% and then exporting, but the cut off is the same.
I’d really appreciate it if anyone has any suggestions.
I just tried increasing the RAM buffer to max and get the same choke / cut off problem unfortunately.
Oddly, for me it’s not random. That is, it seems like random notes that are being cutoff, but the same specific hits are consistently cutoff.
I just tried routing the ride/cymbal/OH/room to tracks in Pro Tools to records them to track, hoping to bypass the export problem. However, even bussing to PT tracks, the hits are still cut off.
Thanks @Murt . Overall I’m very very pleased with BFD3. I’ve been able to cheat by copying/pasting the audio from a cymbal that didn’t choke or by manually fading out the cymbal before it cuts off to create a more natural fade.
One thing I noticed last night was in the preferences > engine there are many parameters that seem to control fade lengths on chokes. I didn’t really want to mess around with those, but I did wonder if they could be related.
I honestly don’t feel like it is. It’s not just cymbals - it’s any and all kit pieces with a long enough decay. Cymbals are just more obvious. I’m pretty sure it’s an issue with the engine. I don’t think the cymbal settings will have any effect.
I have an update. Somehow…the current track I’ve been having problems on has been fixed. I did change the RAM buffer to the max setting last night and I still had the problem. Today after a night of rest (for me) and rebooting (for the computer), the track exporting seems to work.
I wish I could point to exactly what happened to help others. The best I can say is try to adjust the ram buffer. Thank you everyone who responded.
I have been using BFD since the early days of BFD2, and never had the random cymbal choke until several months ago.
Same PC, same DAW, same everything for years, except maybe a BFD update. Then, out of the blue there is the random cymbal choke issue many have reported here.
I noticed it for the first time while exporting individual stems, and have remained ever since. When it happens I re-export, sometimes I have to try a couple of times until it works well. Very annoying.
Can we have a statement from BFD team regarding this issue? Are you aware of this? More important, can you fix it? When?
I had this issue too even on an SSD. (Not an NVME but still not slow. Like 500mbps reads)
I bit the bullet and went out to get another 16gb of ram (32gb in total) and just load the samples into RAM.
Most standard sized drums are <20gb fully loaded on the full samples
Zero issues now.
Probably not the best advise but it was the easiest one for me especially when playing on edrums.
Hello ! Coming back to this topic three years after creating it.
My “max stream buffer” solution didn’t work anymore since an update and my cymbals cutted off.
I tried Dd300’s “choke on aftertouch” guide and for now it seems to work so thanks to him !!.. I keep my fingers crossed and will update the first message of the topic so that people can read the answer directly.
Have you tried different choke settings in BFD3 Prefs? I’ve had to experiment with those when I’ve had similar issues. How much system RAM do you have now? You initially posted 16GB. I have 24GB and with some of the more detailed expansions like Dark Farm it can become a problem. Also, I think you posted that you have your samples on a platter HDD. That could also be an issue, depending on the expansion used.
I didn’t try tweaking the choke settings, I’ll definitely look into that.
You read right, I’m still on a 16 GB config with the libraries on a hard drive. Still, I don’t know why I had no issues for months and it came back, even if it’s better now that I did Dd300’s trick…