Can we think of a near launch time window? I still believe in the future of BFD Drums xD
BTW… Vintage Recording Techniques has a total of 29 channels in it. 100% the largest BFD pack. We crammed so much into that. Typical overheads sure. But then you’ve got the Glyn Johns technique, ORTF overheads, omni room mics, loads of stuff.
Any pack I’ve done, I’ve always tried to give a ton of room mics and as many character channels as possible. I don’t want boring sterile drums.
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I’m doing fine with my Studio M2 Max.
Can’t wait, I know it’s gonna be kickass!
Get tossed. This product worked for about an hour and was buggy as shit! Fuck Bfd3.
I’ve been using it it all day everyday for the last 13 years, haven’t had to toss it once, and go speak to someone else like that.
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Apparently you’re the shit! You lucky fuck.
Luck has nothing to do with it, neither does shit. I get back what I put out there…
Ooooooh spot the ‘edgelord’ 
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Today I decided to run BFD Download Manager to see if there were any updates. I got an error that said:
“There was an issue retrieving your list of products. Our server was unable to process the request. Please try again shortly. Server message: The request could not be authorized.”
I have legitimate license for BFD3 and for the BFD Crush expansion and yet I am unable to use either of them for HOURS now. I wrote Support. If this is typical and they don’t sort stranding their legitimate users out in the cold like this, I’d say no… it doesn’t have a future. I can’t imagine using BFD3 now in an important project where it just may stop working.
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BFD3 doesn’t have a future… BFD4 might.
Okay… so finally got a response from support. They reset my activations and told me to log out and log back in in BFD License Manager. That worked. I can use BFD3 again.
I would hope that @BFD_Drew 's confirmation that AAX is in the works for BFD3 means that it does indeed have a future.
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I had the same thing happen to me but I tried again a moment later and everything came back.
I did get concerned for a minute there, tho!
BFDPlayer still holding me over for VST3 only usage, sounds great and it’s dependable enough. For proper BFD3 I use the FXP version in rosetta mode and that works just fine, no auth issues and all the functionality is there, most importantly being the loudness controls which only seem to work for Dark Farm in latest BFD.
For any BFDPlayer users that have BFD3 and dark farm, you can create drum maps in BFD3 that work in Player, just drop them into the proper folder. And if you need more control over bleed levels and whatnot just edit the gain parameter in the info.xml files and all that. Definitely not as elegant as something built into the UI but honestly once you get the mapping and levels how you want, BFDPlayer sounds good enough and has enough round robins to contend with flagship products, imo.
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Yeah, but after AAX drops they will most likely focus all their limited resources on BFD4 and I wouldn’t expect any more BFD3 updates, unless another huge bug pops up (likely). They just want it stable with compatibility and then let it be. The time in-between BFD3 updates has gotten longer and longer, compared to say 2 years ago. So that’s what I meant by, BFD3 has no future.
Yeah that argument is fair, BFD3 doesn’t need a future, BFDDrums does, and to me that means focusing on new products. So I can either do like some users and “leave” in a rage (yet remain here for years after leaving still trolling angrily), or I can threaten “legal action”…
… or I can just use what’s there and wait because it’s 2024 and we have a great deal of alternatives that hold us over for professional work while the devs do what they do.
And I don’t believe a properly fixed and working VST3 version of BFD3 constitutes as a future, it’s just a well capped off final release as BFD1 and BFD2 got.
I hope this is taken as constructive criticism, but I think BFD Drums have made some miscalculations when it comes to development. That is, in my opinion, they should have focused on “updating” BFD3 to the new times (VST3 format, bug fixes…) and developing BFD4 instead of wasting resources and time on BFD Player. Yeah. He is very good but he is still a “little brother” while BFD3 has been “abandoned” to his fate with the promise of, perhaps at the end of the year, knowing something about BFD4.
Along the way, loyal users who have ended up very angry, migrating to other more stable battery software with continuous maintenance and what is worse, carrying negative “word of mouth” through forums and other places on the Internet about the BFD brand .
It will be difficult to overcome and I understand the anger of many users. BFD is my “go to” when it comes to drums, but I understand, they are taking too long to put an end to persistent errors.
All the best.
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I agree, our anger has been justified, and like I said before it’s been very strange for me to not recommend BFD to users asking for drum software… word of mouth is very powerful.
Miscalculations aside (regardless if any of those decisions were in the BFD teams control…), we are where we are with out software and I can’t fault anyone for abandoning something that doesn’t work right or is not dependable, and I understand not everyone has the means or the production scale to own every alternative.
I’m in a position to pick and choose whichever I want to use and even still I choose to hold out for some kind of flagship BFD product that becomes my new staple.
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I’m probably like many long-time users who have been with BFD since v1 & v2 and have got to know how it works so changing to another instrument is not ideal but is a possibility and I’ve been trying the other majors to see how they work.
However, given how software and computing has changed since BFD3 was launched in 2013 it’s hard to recommend it to anyone looking for a new drum vst as people are more used to a slicker ‘user experience’ nowadays and I’m afraid it doesn’t match up to what that is now, especially as other products sound very good and the differences are becoming marginal.
I’ll continue to use it for as long as I can but it would be good to see a more modern look and functionality at some point.