\BS Timbale 1 brush
- Rename Info.xml as [Info.xml.org](http://Info.xml.org)
- Add the path and scan it.
In my case, my full path is :
Z:\AUDIO\Test Library\Kiki Kit\Audio\BS Kit\BS Timbale 1 brush
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### Author:  [@Fender\_Bender](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/Fender_Bender)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/22 "2022-08-02T01:53:35Z")
@VoilierBleu Hi there. So that kinda worked for me. Timbale 1, Timbale 2 and Timbale 2 brush all load and sound for me. However, I can load Timbale 1 brush, but when I play it, BFD3 Standalone immediately crashes.
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### Author:  [@VoilierBleu](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/VoilierBleu)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2022, 5:30am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/23 "2022-08-02T05:30:42Z")
@Fender_Bender : Could you give the md5 (or SHA1 or whatever hash function you want) of the bfdlac files in alt and hit please ?
Should be for Alt :
master01.bfdlac 2b9018bb63f6d8562bc2dd5dbc672926
master02.bfdlac 937b4de6e05d461c9a9d466f0e699e85
master03.bfdlac 6e78cd366afbfd4d26ff0dc9153226dc
master04.bfdlac de2ea86068868eaec96336b114dba095
master05.bfdlac db7b2242b8be4cff1d059396e86d3757
master06.bfdlac 3af477bf489f438b86478da7fd307c0b
master07.bfdlac 3e9fb52a14c2a2d0318c551a72a1dbfa
master08.bfdlac 8253e49f838f3063c0640d6a7a3883be
master09.bfdlac ef2dca1e332aae32072c03b9d9c05aac
master10.bfdlac e1c8444ff0bc9143e8565e347b1c0506
And for Hit
master01.bfdlac 0b3d5a841813922eeef521b61675a575
master02.bfdlac b581521e469f4b134f5b771b4ce46fe4
master03.bfdlac 20b9cbabacd610f1e8214b723bfd03d2
master04.bfdlac e5aebd70ab0fccba44cbbea961687213
master05.bfdlac 19f85fa598339879c8949527e389ce38
master06.bfdlac 0e7c3b43d885cb5d9d0cf54452e77a61
master07.bfdlac 67489e22bfab116aa19b777295dcfe72
master08.bfdlac f1205fee4612bee854506cfb6efbfbe3
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### Author:  [@jih64](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/jih64)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2022, 6:31am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/24 "2022-08-02T06:31:30Z")
@VoilierBleu So, are our files for that Kit Piece/artic borked?
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### Author:  [@VoilierBleu](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/VoilierBleu)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2022, 6:47am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/25 "2022-08-02T06:47:07Z")
@jih64 : I don’t think so.
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### Author:  [@Fender\_Bender](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/Fender_Bender)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/26 "2022-08-02T16:58:15Z")
Alt :
master01.bfdlac 2b9018bb63f6d8562bc2dd5dbc672926
master02.bfdlac 937b4de6e05d461c9a9d466f0e699e85
master03.bfdlac 6e78cd366afbfd4d26ff0dc9153226dc
master04.bfdlac de2ea86068868eaec96336b114dba095
master05.bfdlac db7b2242b8be4cff1d059396e86d3757
master06.bfdlac 3af477bf489f438b86478da7fd307c0b
master07.bfdlac 3e9fb52a14c2a2d0318c551a72a1dbfa
master08.bfdlac 8253e49f838f3063c0640d6a7a3883be
master09.bfdlac ef2dca1e332aae32072c03b9d9c05aac
master10.bfdlac e1c8444ff0bc9143e8565e347b1c0506
Hit:
master01.bfdlac 0b3d5a841813922eeef521b61675a575
master02.bfdlac b581521e469f4b134f5b771b4ce46fe4
master03.bfdlac 20b9cbabacd610f1e8214b723bfd03d2
master04.bfdlac e5aebd70ab0fccba44cbbea961687213
master05.bfdlac 19f85fa598339879c8949527e389ce38
master06.bfdlac 0e7c3b43d885cb5d9d0cf54452e77a61
master07.bfdlac 67489e22bfab116aa19b777295dcfe72
master08.bfdlac f1205fee4612bee854506cfb6efbfbe3
Just quickly glancing, it looks like they match up with what you posted.
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### Author:  [@VoilierBleu](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/VoilierBleu)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/27 "2022-08-02T17:39:17Z")
We have the same files.
I suppose you have the same groove that failed, so you an repeat a test case.
Could you :
1/ Vary the profile (economy 16 bits, full, …) and play the test groove
2/ Try to reduce the number of master0x.bfdlac files (you must manually suppress them, then make the program respawn the tweaks xml file relaunching it or rescanning for example) and play the test groove.
Also, if you have a station with a Windows OS, give a try on it.
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### Author:  [@Fender\_Bender](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/Fender_Bender)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/28 "2022-08-03T18:12:53Z")
@VoilierBleu None of that worked. 16bit still crashes and all of the master bfdlac files for hit and alt all crash.
I don’t have a Windows OS set up for audio and I think I’m done trying to troubleshoot a brush timbale that I’ll probably never use.
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### Author:  [@arthurcclarke](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/arthurcclarke)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2022, 10:36am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/29 "2022-10-14T10:36:39Z")
just bumping this - and confirmed.
Loading Timbale 1 Brush causes a crash in BFD3 standalone
Loading Downbeat Kit Crash AND Ride Cymbal causes a crash in BFD3 standalone
life is too short to go through every kit piece to find out what other ones do.
- Windows 10 although @Fender_Bender is on a Mac so it’s across both platforms.
- Latest BFD3
Note: they also cause the last version of BFD3 from FXP to crash too - so this isn’t a recently introduced bug,
All these kit pieces work fine in BFD2 and the data in both the data folder and in the /appdata folder looks good so problem is elsewhere.
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### Author:  [@arthurcclarke](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/arthurcclarke)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/30 "2022-10-14T14:36:35Z")
here are the fixes
Downbeat Crash and Ride are actually 7 channel files but bfdinfo.xml says they are 8 channel.
There is NO direct channel so edit the file (after backing it up) and remove the direct channel from the xml file and adjust the channel count to 7 (probably best to do this to info.xml too - as they appear to be the same contents)
The Timbale brush 1 has something wrong with it’s bfdinfo.xml file - a corrupt character somewhere. To fix copy the bfdinfo.xml file from Timbale brush 2 and over right the one in brush 1. Go through and edit the “brush 2” to “brush 1” obviously.
Do this to the info.xml file as it’s a copy.
Make sure you RESCAN those content folders in BFD3 after fixing
not sure why they work in BFD2 but it’s obviously much more resilient than V3
you’re welcome
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### Author:  [@Fender\_Bender](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/Fender_Bender)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/31 "2022-10-14T15:13:32Z")
We all appreciate the work you’ve put in to track down a fix for these issues, so thank you for your time there! As these aren’t showstoppers for me personally, I’ll probably just wait for official fixes to the installers (assuming that actually happens at some point?) and will update any expansions as needed. I’m not too savvy with this kind of stuff and don’t want to create more problems for myself trying to manually fix things. 🍻
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### Author:  [@arthurcclarke](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/arthurcclarke)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/32 "2022-10-14T15:26:29Z")
I think it’s unlikely you’ll ever see a fix from Sonic Reality - I could rant on about them all day but that’s not gonna help anyone.
Agreed that not having Timbale brush 1 isn’t a huge showstopper 🙂
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### Author:  [@exBFD\_Drew](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/exBFD_Drew)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/33 "2022-10-14T16:06:43Z")
Ahhhh nice detective work! I can probably fix that without needing SR involvement, but they’d have to upload to their servers. I’m grabbing all the packs now. Will give them the once over.
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### Author:  [@arthurcclarke](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/arthurcclarke)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/34 "2022-10-14T16:08:32Z")
yes - would be good to double check what I found…although all those are working fine for me now
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### Author:  [@kafka](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/kafka)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2022, 5:10am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/35 "2022-11-11T05:10:11Z")
This fix isn’t working for me. I edited the BFDInfo.xml. I cleared and rescanned a few times, but no dice. There may be a cache somewhere that I missed, but I don’t see it.
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### Author:  [@arthurcclarke](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/arthurcclarke)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2022, 12:25pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/36 "2022-11-27T12:25:09Z")
@kafka
I’d suggest you double check your work 🙂
@exBFD_Drew was going to fix them and let everyone know when
> [@Crashing with certain 8 Bit Kit samples - updated - now with workaround for the BUG](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/crashing-with-certain-8-bit-kit-samples-updated-now-with-workaround-for-the-bug/3797/27):
>
> This is fixed in the latest payload for 8 Bit Kit now. I’ll look at other packs and fix those as I can, I’ll post on the forum when I have.
like other promises from BFD…guess it never happened ?
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### Author:  [@SF\_Green](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/SF_Green)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2023, 5:01am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/sr-bob-siebenberg-kit-piece-crashing-bfd/3455/37 "2023-07-18T05:01:40Z")
Sorry it took so long to get back to you on this. Just fell off my radar.
Swapping in the BFDinfo.xml worked for me!
Thanks for all your efforts!
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