# Hihat articulation menu setting the wrong one
**URL:** https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/hihat-articulation-menu-setting-the-wrong-one/5257
**Category:** Bug Reports
**Created:** [August 30, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/hihat-articulation-menu-setting-the-wrong-one/5257 "2023-08-30T16:33:23Z")
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### Author:  [@DoctorDunc](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/DoctorDunc)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/hihat-articulation-menu-setting-the-wrong-one/5257/1 "2023-08-30T16:33:24Z")
I’ve tried this on a couple of kits (BFD3 60s Pop PG and BFD3 70s Rock 1 PG) with the same results. It might be all kits but life’s too short.
- Find or build a groove with hats and snare/kick.
- Select a snare/kick event and try selecting various articulations. As expected, they all move the event to the correct lane.
- Try the same with a hat. This time, from the third articulation on the list, it sets the articulation BELOW the one selected; the first two behave. This means it’s impossible to select the third articulation (1/8 Bell here).
It just seems to be the hats.
But I’ve also noticed that when migrating and event between kit pieces, slots display articulations - labelled unknown or somesuch - that they don’t have. Following on from above:
- re-assign a Hat to, say, Crash 1 or Cymbal 1. It turns up in a lane marked ‘unknown’. Now try setting the articulations; it’s a bit unpredictable. For example, I couldn’t select Choke but then I could.
v3.4.5 build 28 gen
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### Author:  [@CHASER](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/CHASER)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/hihat-articulation-menu-setting-the-wrong-one/5257/2 "2023-08-30T17:28:41Z")
The only Expansion that has 1/8 Articulations is Dark Farm…and I don’t see a Bell.
So maybe a 1/8 Bell is down the road for it and the VRT or Crush Expansions
The BFD3 Core Library and most others have Bell Tip…for the HH.
Under View change to “Artics used in Groove”…when ALL is selected I remember seeing the 1/8 Bell is grayed out…when “Show Hi Hat 8ths” is selected ALL 1/8 Articulations are grayed out.
I haven’t checked the reassignments and “unknown” Lanes as I am away but I am sure someone will jump in as they are many that are more Proficient than I am with the Groove Editor.
> [@Info on the expanded hihat artics/zones?](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/info-on-the-expanded-hihat-artics-zones/5155/4):
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> I haven’t seen an updated Manual/User Guide as of this post… The Articulations for the BFD3 Core Library are still the same. The 1/8 Articulations I have only seen in Dark Farm…which is the most recent expansion. The AIR Plugins are New…(Well…“New” for BFD3) The Plugins are from the Creative FX Collection] which has been around since Pro Tools 8 or so… I still have an old link for the [Creative Collection](http://akmedia.digidesign.com/support/docs/AIR_Creative_Collection_Guide_80358.pdf) and created a [Download](https://www.mediafire.com/file/xob6tzb9c3oygxc/Creative+FX+Collection+-+User+Guide+-+v1.0.pdf/file) for the more current version which is both Create FX and Creativ…
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### Author:  [@Fender\_Bender](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/Fender_Bender)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2023, 5:48pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/hihat-articulation-menu-setting-the-wrong-one/5257/3 "2023-08-30T17:48:22Z")
> [@CHASER](#):
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> The only Expansion that has 1/8 Articulations is Dark Farm
I think Drew mentioned recently that BFD Crush also has the 1/8 hat articulation, but it was never added to the installer. Possibly a future update will add that functionality.