# Crash/Ride/Hi-Hat choke problem on Alesis Surge SE

**URL:** https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/crash-ride-hi-hat-choke-problem-on-alesis-surge-se/5892
**Category:** Bug Reports
**Created:** [March 21, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/crash-ride-hi-hat-choke-problem-on-alesis-surge-se/5892 "2024-03-21T12:00:46Z")
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#### Post date: [March 21, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/crash-ride-hi-hat-choke-problem-on-alesis-surge-se/5892/2 "2024-03-21T16:18:44Z")

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Which BFD Player Version is installed?  
Is it the Version that came with the Kit…or the Version which requires the InMusic Software Center.  
Click on the BFD Player LOGO…Current Version is 1.2.0.31  
The old Version that was bundled with the SE Kits was . 0.9.0.32

 ![BFD Player Version Check v1.2.0.31](https://forum.bfddrums.com/uploads/default/original/2X/5/5f71a28fa7259b0bb4d8887ba26672bde03b90bd.png)

If you need the InMusic Version see this Topic

> [@BFD Player and additional kits?](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-player-and-additional-kits/4887/30):
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> There is now a link to download the inMusic Software Center… Once installed …Launch and it will access your inMusic Profile and you will have access to All Downloads in your inMusic Profile… The Software Center will show Download…then Install. The Software Center will sync and auto update all products when opened.

Lately I have been running across a number of the Modules (Nitro,Surge,Nitro Max) which are advertised as coming with Continuous/Variable Type Controllers…  
However the Module is not sending CC4…

 ![Nitro,MAX,MESH Surge MESH,SE NO CC4](https://forum.bfddrums.com/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c787e8de21d12742c8cb716510b339e38d1f5f15.png)

I haven’t heard anything back from those with the issue as they were contacting Alesis Support.

I attached a Map with After Touch turned off…check and see how the Module plays now.  
The HH Pedal issues may or may not be fixed…but No Cymbal Chokes…  
I don’t have one of these modules for testing any more.The Modules are Re-Brands based on the **[Medeli DD-512](https://www.mecldata.com/download/manual/aw_DD512_Manual_G11_110928.pdf)**.The last one I had was the DM7X…over 10 years ago.

If the HH issues are resolved…Someone that uses these Modules may have to setup MIDIOX or a MIDI Monitoring Utility and see if the Cymbals send a Choke Note.

There have been a few posts on this Topic…

> [@BFD Player and Alesis Surge Mesh SE - strange hi-hat behaviour \[Resolved\]](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-player-and-alesis-surge-mesh-se-strange-hi-hat-behaviour-resolved/4585):
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> Hello everyone, I recently purchased the Surge Mesh SE that came with BFD Player bundled and it was finally released for download this month. Since I’m an early adopter, I suppose I have to work to figure some bugs out. I have the software and the included “dark mahoganny” preset pack installed on my M1 Macbook Air. I’m excited about the sound quality and the relative ease of use of the interface, but at this point I’ve encountered an issue that might be a deal breaker if its not sorted out s…

> [@Hi-Hat Issues with BFD Player 1.2](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/hi-hat-issues-with-bfd-player-1-2/5845):
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> Ever since the 1.2 update my Hi-Hat doesn’t work properly. I have an Alesis Surge Mesh kit. When I load a new preset such as 80’s Lover the open Hi-Hat sounds normal, as soon as I close the Hi-Hat it no longer opens. Therefore I have the fully closed and half open available with no way to get the completely open to work again unless I reload the preset. I checked the midi notes in the module and they are routed correctly. Any ideas? Thanks, Nick

[Alesis Surge Mesh SE - NO AT.zip](https://forum.bfddrums.com/uploads/short-url/ceSS3aBvMDoGctBBKZVeVHxK00f.zip) (1.3 KB)

Unzip…copy/Paste to

**Windows** …C:\ProgramData\>BFD Drums\>BFDPlayer\>System\>Maps.  
**macOS** Library\>Application Support\>BFD Drums\>BFDPlayer\>System\>Maps

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