# BFD Percussion Instruments that don't work in BFD3
**URL:** https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-percussion-instruments-that-dont-work-in-bfd3/3285
**Category:** Bug Reports
**Created:** [June 17, 2022, 6:32am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-percussion-instruments-that-dont-work-in-bfd3/3285 "2022-06-17T06:32:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@DaveD](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/DaveD)
#### Post date: [June 17, 2022, 6:32am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-percussion-instruments-that-dont-work-in-bfd3/3285/1 "2022-06-17T06:32:19Z")
In the latest version of BFD 3 the following three instruments don’t play when loaded into a kit:
- PER Household Trash Can BD Beater
- PER Household Trash Can Chains
- PER Misc Rain Stick
It’d be lovely to see a fix for these samples.
Many thanks.
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### Author:  [@exBFD\_Drew](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/exBFD_Drew)
#### Post date: [June 17, 2022, 7:09am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-percussion-instruments-that-dont-work-in-bfd3/3285/2 "2022-06-17T07:09:28Z")
What do you mean “don’t play”? Could you please expand on that?
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### Author:  [@DaveD](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/DaveD)
#### Post date: [June 17, 2022, 7:24am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-percussion-instruments-that-dont-work-in-bfd3/3285/3 "2022-06-17T07:24:03Z")
Same behaviour as in this post:
> [@BFD1 kit pieces in latest percussion download](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd1-kit-pieces-in-latest-percussion-download/2776):
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> Have just downloaded the latest version of the percussion kit and noticed that some kit pieces are not playing, they make a clicking noise and send the meters into the red. I checked in the library and noticed that there were two folders for those kit pieces, one of which was labelled as BFD1 and it is those that are causing the issue. I don’t think they should be there in the download. Looking in the library folder I can see that there are two folders for the PER Ashiko Tom kit piece and for …
In a nutshell, they make a clicking noise and send the meters into the red.
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### Author:  [@exBFD\_Drew](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/exBFD_Drew)
#### Post date: [June 17, 2022, 7:33am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-percussion-instruments-that-dont-work-in-bfd3/3285/4 "2022-06-17T07:33:53Z")
Thanks. I’ll try and reproduce here. But in the meantime, can you try deleting the loudness cache folder. It is located here:
Windows - C:\users\ **USERNAME** \AppData\Roaming\BFD Drums\BFD3\LoudnessCache
OSX - /Users/ **USERNAME** /Library/Application Support/BFD Drums/BFD3
Then try reloading the drums again.
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### Author:  [@DaveD](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/DaveD)
#### Post date: [June 17, 2022, 8:11am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-percussion-instruments-that-dont-work-in-bfd3/3285/5 "2022-06-17T08:11:11Z")
Many thanks, Drew.
I deleted the loudness cache and still produced the same result.
I should add that when the sounds are auditioned prior to adding them into a kit they sound okay.
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### Author:  [@Steve63](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/Steve63)
#### Post date: [June 27, 2022, 9:40am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-percussion-instruments-that-dont-work-in-bfd3/3285/6 "2022-06-27T09:40:04Z")
Did you check the folder to see if you have 2 versions like I had?
The Ashiko and the Djembe toms can be deleted if it’s those ones
Steve
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### Author:  [@DaveD](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/DaveD)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2022, 2:27am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-percussion-instruments-that-dont-work-in-bfd3/3285/7 "2022-06-28T02:27:43Z")
Hi Steve, yeah for those particular instruments there’s only one version.
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### Author:  [@Steve63](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/Steve63)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2022, 11:43am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-percussion-instruments-that-dont-work-in-bfd3/3285/8 "2022-06-28T11:43:39Z")
Right, I can confirm this is happening on my desktop too.
Deleting the loudness cache doesn’t fix it.
Steve
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### Author:  [@DaveD](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/DaveD)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-percussion-instruments-that-dont-work-in-bfd3/3285/9 "2022-06-28T23:14:37Z")
Thanks for confirming, Steve.
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### Author:  [@DrNewcenstein](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/DrNewcenstein)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-percussion-instruments-that-dont-work-in-bfd3/3285/10 "2023-07-05T18:58:24Z")
My Rain Stick does the same thing, as do the Trash Cans DaveD mentioned.
The program is writing bad Articulation Tweaks files.
I poked through the BFDArticTweaks.xml file in the PER Rain Stick/Hit folder and saw that it states
> loudness=“-inf”
On every line.
I compared this to other, functional Percussion items I’ve been using (claps, snaps, stick clicks, etc) and all of these have an actual number value, not “-infinity”.
I also looked at the Trash Can sounds DaveD mentioned, and their XML files also state “-inf”.
These sounds do release the audio driver eventually - Rain Stick takes longest, likely because it’s got the longest resonance.
I’ll send one of my files to Drew via DM so he can compare it to his.
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### Author:  [@Scottfa](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/Scottfa)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-percussion-instruments-that-dont-work-in-bfd3/3285/11 "2023-07-06T20:56:09Z")
Same problem here, although with my RME UCX the audio driver does not release. I have to go into Options and click on Refresh to release the audio. Pretty disappointing that a currently available expansion would still have no Presets, Grooves with a lot of missing pieces(the yellow triangles ) etc. I think that for me any expansions will be on hold. I now feel that I have to go elsewhere for percussion.