# BFD 3 plays open hats when playing closed hats

**URL:** <https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-3-plays-open-hats-when-playing-closed-hats/5756>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 31, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-3-plays-open-hats-when-playing-closed-hats/5756 "2024-01-31T11:10:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DarrernMc](https://forum.bfddrums.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8e7dd6/32.png) [@DarrernMc](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/DarrernMc)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-3-plays-open-hats-when-playing-closed-hats/5756/1 "2024-01-31T11:10:51Z")

</div>

I have my midi inputs set up for gen midi in Cubase and in BFD 3.  
attached to a Yamaha dtx multi 12.

When I play closed hats,BFD 3 plays open hats which is very annoying.

All the assignments are fine.

I tried this in SD 2 and all is fine.  
Closed,Pedal and open hats operate as they should.

How do I remedy this?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![LivingRoomRocker](https://forum.bfddrums.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LivingRoomRocker](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/LivingRoomRocker)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-3-plays-open-hats-when-playing-closed-hats/5756/2 "2024-01-31T19:42:50Z")

</div>

Hi DarrernMc and welcome to the BFD forums.

Check your dtx multi to see that it is sending the correct assignment with the pedal in the down position.

That’s all I got.

Kind regards,

Living Room Rocker

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DarrernMc](https://forum.bfddrums.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8e7dd6/32.png) [@DarrernMc](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/DarrernMc)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 7:11am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-3-plays-open-hats-when-playing-closed-hats/5756/3 "2024-02-01T07:11:47Z")

</div>

I wrote all the midi note assignments before I started.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DarrernMc](https://forum.bfddrums.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8e7dd6/32.png) [@DarrernMc](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/DarrernMc)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 8:03am UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-3-plays-open-hats-when-playing-closed-hats/5756/4 "2024-02-01T08:03:51Z")

</div>

I have written every midi note for the pads on the Yamaha dtx multi 12.

Then I look at keys are assigned for each tom in BFD 3.  
So then I change them in Cubases midi mapper to match.

But when I play the floor tom pad,there is no sound.

There is something seriously wrong with the midi mapping in BFD 3.  
I can load in SD2 and Mojo Drums and I don’t get these issues at all.

So essentially BFD 3 is broken software.

In Cubase I used “create midi map from instrument” after failing with every other option.

I tried to find the pedal hats by clicking every note but Nothing.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![CHASER](https://forum.bfddrums.com/user_avatar/forum.bfddrums.com/chaser/32/2375_2.png) [@CHASER](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/CHASER)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-3-plays-open-hats-when-playing-closed-hats/5756/5 "2024-02-01T14:28:35Z")

</div>

I ran across your post under the BFD3 Topic in the **[Cubase Forum](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/a-bfd3-thread/693723/192)** and deleted my post as there was no need for the troubleshooting I posted here.

There are quite a few users in this Forum using Cubase with BFD3, so hopefully some will chime in…

**EDIT:**  
if it’s of any help…personally when using drum modules etc as controllers I get it working well in the Standalone first and that helps eliminate some trouble shooting when moving to Vst/DAW.  
Connect the DTX MULTI 12…load the DTX-MULTI 12 Key/Map and check…if the mapping seems out of wack check the Octave range…Tools \> Preferences \> MIDI.  
I setup mainly Alesis Modules and the Octave needs to be set at -2 for the maps to line up properly  
if you didn’t use the Setup Wizard to select the Host/DAW.

There is also an extension for using the DTX-MULTI 12 as a controller in Cubase ,don’t know if you already have it setup that way or may or may not be interested in it.

**[DTX-MULTI 12 Extension V1.1.1 for Win](https://usa.yamaha.com/support/updates/dtx-multi_12_extension_win.html)**

_"DTX-MULTI 12 Extension is software which lets you operate the Cubase functions from the DTX-MULTI 12 as a remote controller. For example. You can operate the Cubase transport, turn its metronome on or off, and control various other functions from the instrument’s front panel._

_For more details, please refer the installation Guide which will be downloaded with program file."_

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DarrernMc](https://forum.bfddrums.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8e7dd6/32.png) [@DarrernMc](https://forum.bfddrums.com/u/DarrernMc)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://forum.bfddrums.com/t/bfd-3-plays-open-hats-when-playing-closed-hats/5756/6 "2024-02-01T23:26:42Z")

</div>

I used the setup wizard in BFD 3.  
Selected Cubase as the daw for BFD 3 and the DTX multi 12 as the midi key map.

Then opened Cubase, added BFD 3 as an instrument.

Then in Cubase I selected “create midimap from instrument”

Recorded some drums.

The midi map keys in Cubase are totally different to what’s listed for the kit pieces in BFD 3.

I don’t get it.

I created a midi map from BFD 3 but it assigns different notes in Cubase???

I am done.

Saving for SD3.

There is nothing more I can do to figure this mind fuck out.
